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jack kennedy, ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> don't bring up that. at one point during tonight's debate, paul ryan described the stimulus law as a giveaway to special interest groups. vice president biden had prepared a response to that one. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin. we sent millions of dollars. you know why he -- >> you did ask for stimulus money? >> won it occasions. we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. >> i love that. i love that. this is such a bad program, and he writes me a letter saying the reason we need this stimulus, it will create growth and jobs. his words. i wish he would just tell -- be a little more candid. >> unlike last week's presidential debate, tonight's debate did include some discussion of women's health issues, specifically each side's stance on abortion. >> if the romney/ryan ticket, if those that believe ab
jack kennedy, ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> don't bring up that. at one point during tonight's debate, paul ryan described the stimulus law as a giveaway to special interest groups. vice president biden had prepared a response to that one. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin. we sent...
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. >> ronald reagan -- >> oh, now, your jack kennedy. >> reporter: as predicted by the campaign, the vice president came out grinning, flapping, flailing arms. he was aggressive, attacking the republican ticket hard. >> we will have credibility on this issue. >> incredible. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place, in spite of their opposition. it has been discredited by studies, over 100 criminal investigations. >> reporter: along the way, the vice president cut in. >> >> mr. vice president, i know you're under duress -- to make up for lost ground. >> reporter: he talked about the auto bailout. >> when mr. ryan said that romney was a car guy, i thought well if they have them in an elevator, i guess he was. >> reporter: for a group of undecided voters put together in virginia, a split decision. this voter thought mr. biden won. >> the vice president did. >> why? >> i think he came off as being very strong, emotional, and i like the looking at the camera and talking to the american people. >> reporter: another, paul ryan. >> vice president joe biden was being kind of immature, wi
. >> ronald reagan -- >> oh, now, your jack kennedy. >> reporter: as predicted by the campaign, the vice president came out grinning, flapping, flailing arms. he was aggressive, attacking the republican ticket hard. >> we will have credibility on this issue. >> incredible. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place, in spite of their opposition. it has been discredited by studies, over 100 criminal investigations. >> reporter: along the way, the...
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>>> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> welcome back to "hardball," live from center college in danville, kentucky. what can we expect from joe biden tonight? democratic chris van hollen, he's been playing biden in the sparring matches. i have a whole list of things. will he bring out romney's positions an abortion and paul ryan's personhood, which criminalizes abortion. can biden deliver that, too? joining me right now is u.s. congressman chris van hollen who happens to be my congressman and my wife's, probably more importantly. and gentlemen, i'm going to start with you, sir, because you've been there. you know what we don't know. you know how prepared joe biden is. is he? >> he's ready to go. he's looking forward to tonight and he understands the stakes are high and he's looking forward to talking about the choices in this election. absolutely. >> it's faster, more punches are thrown. does he have a different role than he knows for running for pres
>>> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> welcome back to "hardball," live from center college in danville, kentucky. what can we expect from joe biden tonight? democratic chris van hollen, he's been playing biden in the sparring matches. i have a whole list of things. will he bring out romney's positions an abortion and paul ryan's personhood, which criminalizes abortion. can biden deliver that, too?...
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. >> senator, i served with jack kennedy, i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in class fuel economy. it's our most innovative altima ever. ♪ try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this is new bayer migraine. [ male announcer ] it's the power of aspirin plus more in a triple action formula to relieve your tough migraines. new bayer migraine formula. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> we're expecting that paul ryan's budget and the budget cuts, medicare reform, taxes, are going to be major issues tonight when the candidates who have been debating those very questions in separate stump speeches, now th
. >> senator, i served with jack kennedy, i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in class fuel economy. it's our most innovative altima ever. ♪ try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this...
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. >>> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> part of why the stakes feel so high tonight is that incumbent presidents almost always lose to the candidate challenging them in their first debate. the exception to that is bill clinton beating dole in their first debate in '96. other than that every time the first debate has been a killer for the incokucumbent president. president carter lost to ronald reagan, president reagan lost his first debate to robert mondale. president bush lost his first debate to bill clinton and ross perot. next president bush lost his first debate to john kerry. so when president obama lost his first debate last week to his challenger, mitt romney, that outcome was totally in keeping with the sad, sad incumbent president tradition of getting creamed in their first debate. but what hat means for tonight is that the democrats are looking for a solid performance to try to stop the republican momentum, to try to quash the poll imbalance that romney and ryan have been enjoy
. >>> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> part of why the stakes feel so high tonight is that incumbent presidents almost always lose to the candidate challenging them in their first debate. the exception to that is bill clinton beating dole in their first debate in '96. other than that every time the first debate has been a killer for the incokucumbent president. president carter lost to...
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kennedy when he was running for president and lloyd benson says, you're no jack kennedy. >> right. as the story goes, quale was warned not to make that comparison in his debate prep but for some reason it just stuck in his head as an effective tool but it blew up on him. >> and the funny thing is though, tamron, i talked to quale a couple of days ago. he said, i still benefitted the republican ticket in 1988 and in 1992 because i did what vice presidential candidates need to do in debatsz, not focus on the guy across the hall for me. yes, benson got a good line off on me, i focused on michael dukakis, bill clinton in 1992, and i think you can expect that paul ryan is going to do the same thing. >> john harwood, a big night. thank you so much for your time. i'll see you soon, john. that does it for this edition of "news nation." i'm tamron hall. stay with msnbc tonight with special primetime coverage of the vice presidential debate at 8:00 p.m. eastern. "the cycle" is up next. that ma. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle sou
kennedy when he was running for president and lloyd benson says, you're no jack kennedy. >> right. as the story goes, quale was warned not to make that comparison in his debate prep but for some reason it just stuck in his head as an effective tool but it blew up on him. >> and the funny thing is though, tamron, i talked to quale a couple of days ago. he said, i still benefitted the republican ticket in 1988 and in 1992 because i did what vice presidential candidates need to do in...
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jack kennedy lowered. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress, but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> well, don't take all the four minutes, then. that's a bunch of malarky. >> less than four weeks till election day, and two candidates wishing they could close the sale as well as this guy does. >> you okay? okay. what it does is it gives us an opportunity for us to be able to offer a piece of electronic equipment that is simple for children to operate but also mom and dad can operate it as well. >> you've just got to continue to sell the product. >>> when we come back, david gregory and tom brokaw join the conversation. also chuck todd live from danville, kentucky. >>> and later, house majority leader eric cantor and congressman chris van hollen. all that when "morning joe" comes back. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment o
jack kennedy lowered. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress, but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> well, don't take all the four minutes, then. that's a bunch of malarky. >> less than four weeks till election day, and two candidates wishing they could close the sale as well as this guy does. >> you okay? okay. what it does is it gives us an opportunity for us to be...
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jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- republican and democrats -- republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to doing bipartisan deals. >> when we did it with reagan, he said here are the things we're going to cut. >> we're going to fill in the details. >> fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. look, let me say it this way. >> that coming from a republican congress working bipartisanly? 7% rating? come on. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators he served with were democrats. he didn't demonize them, he didn't demagogue them, he met with the party leaders every week. he reached across the aisle, he didn't compromise principles -- >> and you saw what happened. >> and he balanced the budget. >> he did such a great job. >> vice president -- >> why isn't he even contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest -- what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially reduce it long term? >> just let taxes expire like they'
jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- republican and democrats -- republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to doing bipartisan deals. >> when we did it with reagan, he said here are the things we're going to cut. >> we're going to fill in the details. >> fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. look, let me say it this way. >> that coming from a...
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. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> you can cut tax rates by 20%. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're prosing. >> never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times actual. >> i never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: well, it's a busy day for three of the four guys on the ticket here. you've got mitt romney who starts his day in north carolina, hits virginia and meets up though with paul ryan in the evening for a joint event in ohio. joe biden, he's going to paul ryan's home state in wisconsin. president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> all right, chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the left of "the rachel maddow show" on msnbc and going into this joe biden needed to steady the ship and calm the democratic side. did he accomplish that? >> democrats are psyched that he had such a good night. yo
. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> you can cut tax rates by 20%. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're prosing. >> never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times actual. >> i never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: well, it's a busy day for three of...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: it is a busy day today for three of the four guys on the ticket. mitt romney is on his way from north carolina, in virginia later this evening, he meets up with paul ryan for a big joint event in ohio. joe biden is going to paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. meanwhile, president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have a dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the host of msnbc's rachel maddow show. coffee is on me. going s debate, everybody said the goal of joe biden was to steady the ship, calm the nerves on the democratic side. did he do that? >> absolutely. democrats are psyched joe biden had a great night. you said at the top there was no clear winner and that may be, but it was important for the democrats that paul ryan not be the clear winner. most democrats, i don't know about independents, but most democrats think joe biden won. >> i think there's no winner because of joe biden's style, his demeanor. if we learned
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: it is a busy day today for three of the four guys on the ticket. mitt romney is on his way from north carolina, in virginia later this evening, he meets up with paul ryan for a big joint event in ohio. joe biden is going to paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. meanwhile, president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have a dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt?...